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by Phil
Sun Aug 12, 2007 6:43 pm
Forum: Therapy & Healing
Topic: Debunking primal therapy website
Replies: 24
Views: 71145

To D.R.B., I have said enough on primal. But what form of healing do you recommend, how successful is it, how does it work, what is the theory? All I have ever really heard from you is criticism. Is there anything constructive for those interested in healing, but not necessarily saving the world? Phil
by Phil
Sun Jul 01, 2007 2:05 am
Forum: Primal Cafe
Topic: Confronting our parents
Replies: 32
Views: 70318

cc,

You wrote:
It has been an excruciating journey for me. Its an ongoing hell
I have been thinking about what you said, it was sad to hear. I hope that you have things that help.

Phil
by Phil
Thu Jun 28, 2007 5:19 pm
Forum: Primal Cafe
Topic: Confronting our parents
Replies: 32
Views: 70318

cc that is horrendous what your father did to you when you were nine. Having done that, it just makes me wonder what he was like and what other things were done. Cesar, I know that you are not favorably inclined towards therapies but, at least for me, I don't neccesarily dislike people because of th...
by Phil
Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:57 pm
Forum: Primal Cafe
Topic: Confronting our parents
Replies: 32
Views: 70318

Cesar, I think healing is possible. I hear of people healing from all sorts of abusive stuff. It certainly is a long road, and is not a sure thing. It's possible to get worse instead of better. I have always thought it was worth the effort and worth taking the chance. I think our psychological issue...
by Phil
Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:52 am
Forum: Primal Cafe
Topic: Confronting our parents
Replies: 32
Views: 70318

Hi Cesar, My parents both passed away years ago, my mother when I was a child, but my healing has been accelerating. I don't need them for my healing, the key is inside me, being unlocked. To begin with a person who can help for healing is one who is completely opposite to the parent. A person who c...
by Phil
Tue Jun 26, 2007 4:06 pm
Forum: Primal Cafe
Topic: Elisabeth Loftus
Replies: 74
Views: 232615

Dennis, Yes, I was talking about confronting parents in-person as an adult. The parents who need to be confronted are the childhood parents who still exist in our memories. The confrontation has to be with the childl feelings. That is certainly beneficial. I feel I need to clarify some things I said...
by Phil
Tue Jun 26, 2007 4:16 am
Forum: Primal Cafe
Topic: Elisabeth Loftus
Replies: 74
Views: 232615

Digging directly for memories is an improper way of doing therapy and healing. I have no doubt that in many cases the memories are false. There certainly are sufficient other cases where the abuse has been documented to have taken place and is proven. Nobody can doubt that ual abuse of children take...
by Phil
Sun Jun 24, 2007 5:56 pm
Forum: Primal Cafe
Topic: Elisabeth Loftus
Replies: 74
Views: 232615

The fact that there are two types of memories; image and feeling, is different but related to Janov's 1st, 2nd, and 3rd lines. The truth is, for me, most of the feeling component of my childhood was missing, prior to therapy. I had images, but no recall of how that incident made me feel at that time...
by Phil
Sun Jun 24, 2007 2:38 am
Forum: Primal Cafe
Topic: Elisabeth Loftus
Replies: 74
Views: 232615

Something that often gets missed in debates about repressed memories is that there are at least two distinct types of memories. There are higher brain images, which most people call memories, but there are also lower brain feeling memories. Prior to my own healing journey, many of my childhood memor...
by Phil
Fri Jun 01, 2007 2:18 am
Forum: Primal Cafe
Topic: Bookish
Replies: 9
Views: 16407

And I thought those were people aware about childhood abuse.

I wouldn't say it was a plan. You simply encouraged us to voice our opinions. Nothing wrong about that.

Phil
by Phil
Thu May 31, 2007 3:09 pm
Forum: Primal Cafe
Topic: Isn't child torture and child sacrifice abuse???
Replies: 10
Views: 17498

OK, I put in a comment on the child sacrifice discussion. That it is a "no-brainer".

Phil
by Phil
Thu May 31, 2007 3:21 am
Forum: Primal Cafe
Topic: Isn't child torture and child sacrifice abuse???
Replies: 10
Views: 17498

I just don't have the energy to join in on Wikipedia. It should be pretty self evident that child sacrifice would be a form of abuse.
I don't see how it could be argued otherwise.

Phil
by Phil
Wed Apr 11, 2007 1:48 am
Forum: Primal Cafe
Topic: Torturing babies in the name of science
Replies: 37
Views: 59264

Hi Bookish, Very interesting about the autobiographies. As can be seen from Holden's account, he had a very severely traumatic birth. Also he mentions a seemingly psychotic episode from late in his childhood. He had a lot of difficult stuff to deal with. His description of his primalling is an examp...
by Phil
Tue Apr 10, 2007 9:35 pm
Forum: Primal Cafe
Topic: Torturing babies in the name of science
Replies: 37
Views: 59264

Hi Bookish, I think you are right, Arthur Janov doesn't really have any good scientific studies backing him up. But, nor do they disprove what he says. Outcome studies are unreliable, I don't think they are worth much. Aren't they mostly patient questionaires etc? Ideally some individuals, trying va...
by Phil
Mon Apr 09, 2007 3:12 pm
Forum: Primal Cafe
Topic: Disenchantment with science
Replies: 33
Views: 51113

Hi Cesar, I read that book by Jeffrey Masson, but it was a long time ago. It didn't really strike a chord with me although I could agree with some of the ideas expressed. For example, I can agree that the credentials and training of many therapists do not indicate their ability to help anyone. Yet I...