Phil and Dennis,
Good feedback and some stuff to think about. Thanks for the link Phil. I liked the solid clear and honest sound of Sam. Phone therapy is an option. With what I am doing now, I am making much greater strides than using conventional therapy locally here in Chile. The nine hours a week of physical therapy dealing with detox and organ-gland stimulation is beyond anything I had expected. Big changes. Life changing. You know it might be all I need. We'll see. In only two months, the change has been dramatic.
The birth trauma information is important to start to understand and integrate I think. Most of what I'm doing is unknown territory right now (Actively doing more RST and also doing the acupressure. A very potent combination).
As time goes on it seems important to know about Stettbacher's methods because it's connected to primal therapy. Anything connected to primal therapy (like RST) draws my attention. I think it's the real deal.
Dennis, your question about crying is a critical one. In a question about crying in a post of some time ago you had mentioned this....and that some people who had an ease of crying would find an easier time of grieving. It is my belief that the entire cure of RST comes from crying only. The anger expression is simply a set up for this stage. I have had lots and lots of grieving. This is how I knew I had done the RST correctly ( and again, I used common sense and didn't just leave it to "whenever you have symptoms".....I committed to the process at a much deeper level). Having said that, I think there is much to learn about RST and what to do. Using additional techniques along with RST is a must in my opinion. I also noticed that a person like me who I think didn't cry for 10 years ( that I can remember) almost certainly cries with sustained use of RST. It happens to me almost every time I put my mind to the therapy ( i.e. counting hours and setting aside a session instead of just "when symptoms appear). But the crying might come up 3 days later. At one point ( about 250 hours in) it was vitrually constant and quite deep. She had predicted this, but she suggested it was serial. Post flood and then "muddy basin". She predicts a year of crying. I may well be post flood now. It's quite possible. I did a ton of crying....more than anything I could have imagined.
VanWinkle seems to believe that RST gets at birth trauma. She may be right given the panic you mention Dennis. Let me know if this is what you mean. Getting to the panic and backing away. I entered some of this panic and it is beyond anything most people could even suspect. No wonder people build a life to avoid it.
I hold no doubt that defences have re-grouped at some level and taken on re-alignment to protect against these experiences of total panic. The worst for me was when I added acupressure and had a lot of stimulation of the pineal gland. That led to hours of panic at a time ( at night during detox events as well as food processing etc.) None of this happened with RST. There were about 5 nights of this. Just unbelievable. That's gone now. I know that the pineal gland is closely associated with dopamine, so there may be some explanation for that. I really don't know.
I was not pleased when I started to read about the pineal gland and ( as Clare had connected to) found out that it had to do with kundalini energy. Sorry Dennis if you don't yet understand the connection at the neurological level of these things ( energy) ...it may well be the same as me having no clue about pre-natal trauma and how to access that. All of us have our knowledge in certain areas and things pop up. It's not my fault that they do. I'm not trying to present them to then "prove" them
(of course I'll give it my best try to explain what seems right to me). Just my experience ok? I think we need to be open minded. I got hit with the pineal effects hugely....and it scared the crap out of me. Especially reading ( below) the Dixon writings. And I read them while it was going on! I thought that it was all over and I'd gone over the top. That has all passed now (it's about 6 weeks back).
Here once again is the author who wrote about this after finding out about VanWinkle. I don't like quoting her, because other things she says frankly to me sound crazy. In any case.....here it is: ( her name is Jana Dixon)
Kundalini awakening represents the detoxification process during the temporary lifting of the repressive mechanisms of the "conscious" ego. Very many if not all factors lead me to this conclusion. For example fasting or going on a raw diet awakens kundalini because the body receives the energy and resources needed to bring about a detoxification crisis. Whereas the normal cooked diet requires so much energy and resources to process that it becomes an ally in the spiritual repressive mechanisms of the ego, as do all such addictions. A kundalini awakening is none other than a very exaggerated version of a normal cyclic detoxification process that affects us all.
"A detoxification crisis is the sum of many crises in separate neurons, and depressive and excitatory symptoms may occur simultaneously. Whether symptoms will develop depends upon the extent of the toxicosis, and persons who are experiencing symptoms are healthier than those who are not because they are detoxifying their nervous systems." ~ E. Van Winkle
The bipolar shift from over excitement to depression is characteristic of nearly all mental disorders including addictions and Alzheimers. Van Winkle associates the hyperactive stage with excess norepinephrine and other metabolites flooding the synapses; first this causes excitation in postsynaptic neurons and then noradrenergic receptors become bound up with these other factors (dopamine, epinephrine, serotonin, GABA, peptides, amino acids and various waste products) and depression ensues.
I'd like to have the luxury of falling into the pit of "burder of proof" and this and that and scientific method and all that. But I don't. I'm already doing RST with big impact, acupressure with huge impact, reading all about primal and looking into birth trauma. Anyone who is looking for the safe route and things that make them comfortable have already left the room even mentioning one of those things.
I mentioned on the other forum my belief in sending and recieving of energy....and that I think it's the way codependencies line up to be processed. I don't know how that works, and I don't share ANY of the attitude the new age people do in falling into a flaky world of woo-woo and whatever. But what I do know is that it is happening. At least it's happening to me...over and over again. In the most obvious ways ( or at least undeniable ways).
Dennis, I'm curious about what experience you might have had that led you to think that people like me with birth trauma ( obvious birth trauma....I spent at least a month in an incubator being born at less than
7 months) don't have much of a shot with Stettbacher. I'm not looking for you to prove anything here, I'm interested in what you've experienced.