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PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 2:27 pm 
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From the Afterword to "Paths of Life" (First published as Wege des Lebens by Suhrkamp Verlag, 1998)....
Alice Miller wrote:
In the recent past, young people have gone into the streets to demonstrate for all kinds of good causes, against war, for protection of the environment, and above all for more humanity. But there have never been any demonstrations supporting the right of children not to be beaten by their caregivers. Why not? I wonder.
I don't think Alice Miller was connected to the internet when she wrote that, so it simply means she didn't find reports of such things in the newspapers and TV channels that were available to her in Zurich. Or did she mean only beatings and not child abuse in general? Certainly, in the present time, it's no longer true for child abuse in general.

Zambia, Africa:

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Malawi, Africa:

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Belize, Central America:

In 2008, teachers in San Pedro went on the streets with children from their schools to demonstrate against child abuse. You can see a collection of photos here:
http://www.belizeans.com/forums/showthr ... hild-Abuse

Of course, the biggest news is from India, where the Wall of Silence collapsed as a consequence of the December 2012 bus rape.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 1:37 pm 
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Hi Searching,
I don't know whether public protests like the ones in the Photo Gallery are a recent phenomenon.... but probably yes. Before I got an internet connection I was like Alice Miller.... I only knew about protests shown on TV or newspaper headlines in England. I don't remember any public protests by child advocates before the scandal of pedophile priests in the 1990's. Nowadays it's much easier to organize street demonstrations using social media like Facebook and Twitter.

Also, I didn't know about the case of Marc Dutroux before you mentioned it, so I visited Wikipedia's article about him:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Dutroux

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Searching wrote:
Sorry for my weird English, hope you are understanding 30 percent.
There's no need to apologize. I have no problem understanding what you wrote in your posts so far. Spelling is not important. Your English writing is better than I could do with the French I was taught at school.

I agree with the point you made about Alice Miller.... she noticed demonstrations against mass-weapons and war but none against beating children. Even more strongly, I agree with what you say about the ignorance of psychologists. So strongly I can't smile about it. What is wrong with journalists who report stupid ideas from psychologists without showing any kind of doubt? We need more journalists like Christian Füller. I used http://translate.google.com/ to read http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Füller_(Journalist)

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 12:23 pm 
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Very convincing video. Thanks for linking to it and I'll add it to the video collection. I remember the days I got scolded for stating that circumcision of boys was as bad as circumcision of girls. A total lack of empathy is what drives these parents who allow it, using their child as a sacrificial object to subject to a group who operates like a cult.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 5:08 pm 
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@ Searching:
Thanks for finding that video! It shows that activism against male circumcision is catching up with FGM/C.

@Dennis:
I'm glad you added the video to the collection. It's a subject which is ignored by Lloyd deMause. Was it on this forum you were scolded or somewhere else?

FGM/C news update:

According to the World Health Organization, the list of countries in Africa which have laws against FGM/C has grown to 24 in 2013.

And it's not just ink on paper....

Last week, in Tanzania (East Africa), police raided a FGM ceremony and arrested the cutters and parents....
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-25422612

In Kurdistan, some villages have gone from 100% of young girls being circumcised to none (article with photos)....
http://www.dw.de/iraqi-kurdistan-fights ... a-17275502

There is a German organization which campaigns against FGM/C in the Middle East (articles with photos)....
http://www.wadi-online.de/ (Deutsch)
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http://en.wadi-online.de/ (English)

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It's good to know that female circumcision is getting more and more banned. Hopefully more pressure will come to ban male circumcision as well. By listening to the stories of some people in this protest, it sounds again that the emotional trauma of it is equal to rape. Imagine that someone rapes your child, asks 3200 dollars and the parents say: "Here you are and thank you for your help."

I never participated in Lloyd DeMause's forum. I don't remember where, but the general response was back then that female circumcision was much worse than male and it didn't matter if I said that pain is pain for a small child, that it cannot differentiate. It doesn't even know by then if it's a boy or girl. It just experiences pain. Overwhelming pain.


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