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by Phil
Mon Apr 09, 2007 1:09 am
Forum: Primal Cafe
Topic: Disenchantment with science
Replies: 33
Views: 67590

Something continually confused is the idea that Janov or therapists at his center are the only ones who practice primal therapy. Primal was actually independently discovered and is practiced by others. That can be seen in articles at the Primal Page website, which hardly has any literature by Janov ...
by Phil
Tue Apr 03, 2007 4:15 am
Forum: Primal Cafe
Topic: Torturing babies in the name of science
Replies: 37
Views: 76280

Hi Bernard, I have seen what Alice Miller has written on the support of an "enlightened witness" and what she has said in her FAQ for finding a therapist. I was thinking she may have more of a description somewhere else. This is just not enough of a description of a therapy or a healing pr...
by Phil
Mon Apr 02, 2007 9:24 pm
Forum: Primal Cafe
Topic: Torturing babies in the name of science
Replies: 37
Views: 76280

I agree that it would be a good thing if more people would visit and contribute here. Here is a question for which I haven't found a satisfactory answer. What type of therapy does Alice Miller really favor./ I guess it wouldn't be primal therapy, but what would it be? There is the psychohistory foru...
by Phil
Mon Apr 02, 2007 2:15 am
Forum: Primal Cafe
Topic: Torturing babies in the name of science
Replies: 37
Views: 76280

It is amazing how the other forum "Siding With the Child" has died. It will no doubt, however, come back to life in time. Notice again that it seems to coincide with the fact that John is no longer posting. He was stirring things up with some of his ideas. When everyone agrees on things, t...
by Phil
Sat Nov 11, 2006 12:14 am
Forum: Primal Cafe
Topic: An Analysis Of The Limits Of Alice Miller
Replies: 30
Views: 71038

It looks like my PC edited the word spanking from my last post. Instead of spanking what you see is "ing". My PC doesn't even want me to be talking about spanking!

Phil
by Phil
Wed Oct 04, 2006 1:01 pm
Forum: Primal Cafe
Topic: Primal Therapy and Sex Differences
Replies: 42
Views: 97844

Hi John, I have to say that I can't see much of what you are saying. It seems excessively complex. How would or should it effect the practice of primal therapy. A basic understanding for me is that most of my characteristics are innate. Those are the capacities that I am trying to recover which have...
by Phil
Tue Oct 03, 2006 8:15 pm
Forum: Primal Cafe
Topic: Primal Therapy and Sex Differences
Replies: 42
Views: 97844

Hi John, This is all confused to me. Primal therapy is not unisexual. Therapy occurs at the level of the individual, man or woman, and not society. Each of us have our issues to deal with and these come out in therapy. Theories are good for books and message boards but in practice therapists mainly ...
by Phil
Mon Sep 18, 2006 12:57 pm
Forum: Primal Cafe
Topic: Primal Therapy and Sex Differences
Replies: 42
Views: 97844

Hi John,

Here is the link for the Yahoo primal support group:
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Pr ... =126376914


Phil
by Phil
Thu Sep 14, 2006 11:22 pm
Forum: Primal Cafe
Topic: Primal Therapy and Sex Differences
Replies: 42
Views: 97844

What I think is that during therapy it is a good idea to use different primal therapists and buddies. I have found that to be helpful to me. This will help to avoid any "blind spots" with any particular therapist. The process flows from the primaller and not the therapist in good primal th...
by Phil
Sun Aug 27, 2006 12:24 am
Forum: Primal Cafe
Topic: Redirecting Self Therapy Results: Fast?
Replies: 35
Views: 84733

Hi John, Yes, it would be a great thing if RST truly works faster than primal and without therapists. I probably do best when I talk about my own therapy rather than making general statements. I feel sure that I never would have done well in any kind of self therapy because it was, and often still i...
by Phil
Fri Aug 25, 2006 1:34 pm
Forum: Primal Cafe
Topic: Redirecting Self Therapy Results: Fast?
Replies: 35
Views: 84733

Hi John, I see codependency and distorted family relationships not as where neurosis lives but just as symptoms of primal pain. It is the individual who sets those things up. Maybe here is a difference between RST and primal. Neurosis lives in the individual. Also, only true psychotics live in a wor...
by Phil
Tue Aug 15, 2006 1:44 pm
Forum: Primal Cafe
Topic: Redirecting Self Therapy Results: Fast?
Replies: 35
Views: 84733

Hi Dennis, Thanks for the link to Emerson's work. There is no contradiction here. Those same babies untreated would need much more time to primal birth trauma later on. Primalling birth trauma so early should have the effect of preventing much of the later compounding traumas. Babies do not yet have...
by Phil
Sat Aug 12, 2006 7:39 pm
Forum: Primal Cafe
Topic: Redirecting Self Therapy Results: Fast?
Replies: 35
Views: 84733

Hi John, When I am in a triggering situation, I am unclear on what I would do differently with RST as opposed to primal. Lets take a specific example: My wife is being bitchy with me and nags a lot. This is a reoccuring trigger. When I have a chance, by myself, I express my anger towards her. This w...
by Phil
Sun Aug 06, 2006 12:02 am
Forum: Primal Cafe
Topic: Redirecting Self Therapy Results: Fast?
Replies: 35
Views: 84733

John, Here is a link to a longer article Jim Pullaro wrote which is on the IPA website. It has a review of the literature on what he calls "fear memory integration". He also wrote a book in which he elaborates in more detail. In both there is a lot of referance to Van Winkle. http://www.pr...
by Phil
Fri Aug 04, 2006 8:21 pm
Forum: Primal Cafe
Topic: Redirecting Self Therapy Results: Fast?
Replies: 35
Views: 84733

Hi John, There is a recent book which I mentioned in another post, by Jim Pullaro, in the media category here, which cites Van Winkles ideas and work. The book seems to treat Van Winkles work as another take on the same process. It may be of interest. I tend to feel that what is unique about my ther...